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Carl, Victoria, and Rick are here, and everyone is cold and buried.


  • Sean says Thunder over Louisville is coming April 18th and includes the US Air Force Thunderbirds and huge fireworks.
  • Victoria thanked everyone for coming out for Paws & Planes. The turnout was hampered by 7 inches of snow, but the 20 or so kids there had a great time.
  • Carl says Sun n Fun is coming soon, and the team will be covering it, including a story about a romance involving one of the co-hosts!

Cruise Flight

Carl Recently interviewed film maker Nancy Spielberg, Producer of the feature length documentary Above and Beyond. Carl replays the interview before the team opens for discussion.

~Picks of the Week~

Carl: The Bent Prop Project: a documentary about the search for various aircraft lost to the Pacific Ocean.
Sean: The Art of Aircraft a website with great aviation related pictures including planes, posters, and very realistic renderings.
Victoria: AOPA National Aviation Community Center: a special hanger for community events and education including classrooms and simulator located at the AOPA HQ in Frederick, MD.
Rick: Overcast: a great app for listening to podcasts on iOS. The app has some great features such as cutting out dead space to save time, and is free with limits or can be unlocked for $4.99.

After Landing Checklist

  • Eric could not be on the show due to a last minute conflict at Polk State University where he is the Aerospace Director
  • Please check out our revamped Facebook Page.

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In this presentation we discuss:

  • The concept of personal minimums.
  • Assessing your pilot and aircraft performance to define your personal minimums.
  • Adjusting your personal minimums in response to specific conditions.

Links Mentioned in this video:

FAA Risk Management Handbook


The following are the slides from the FAA Safety presentation given on February 18, 2015 at Polk State College. For more videos don't forget to subscribe to us on YouTube.


TupperTurnThis episode is an interview with Steve Tupper aka Stephen Force.

“Stephen Force” is the superhero alter ego of mild-mannered tech and aviation lawyer, commercial pilot (glider, with private privileges in ASEL, AMEL, ASES, IA, and DC-3 (SIC) type-rated), and Civil Air Patrol (USAF Auxiliary) lieutenant colonel and search-and-rescue pilot Steve Tupper.

To Read More about Steve Click Here.

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Ron @ Mulia on planeWelcome to Episode 78. Aviation is a challenging and rewarding career. Some want to fly for the airlines and others seek a challenging flying environment dedicated to helping others. Many listeners have written me and feel Mission Aviation Fellowship would fulfill your need to serve others while living the dream of being a “bush” pilot.
Today I have with me Ron Hilbrands from Mission Aviation Fellowship. Ron is the manager of recruiting for MAF where he is responsible for six other recruiters to meet the organizations overseas needs.

We have all seen the exciting videos of flying in the bush bringing food, water, and supplies to those in need. Although we see these exciting videos, we must realize that there is much preparation before an airplane even leaves the ground. Ron is here to discuss how to launch your career with MAF and to explain the many fulfilling jobs at MAF which allow this large organization to function.

Ron and I Discuss:

  • The rewards of mission flying.
  • The goals of MAF.
  • Why you should choose a career flying for MAF.
  • The challenges of flying as a mission pilot.
  • Pay and living conditions.
  • How to prepare for a career with MAF.
  • The various jobs at MAF for the non aviators.


About MAF



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AirCamAviation Starts Here!

This episode is dedicated to the excitement we felt when we first discovered flying! You should feel the excitement and again when you hear the many passionate aviators in this episode.

Representing Sun N Fun radio, Carl Valeri and Eric Crump spent their days at the US Sport Aviation Expo exploring the newest products, listening to lectures , and interviewing many of the exhibitors. This is a long episode because we decided to include all the interviews from the show. We feel each interview has something special to offer to you the listener. Remember the individual interviews will be loaded up to Chats From the Deck and will be streamed at LiveATC throughout the year.



US Sport Aviation Expo

Sun N Fun Radio on LiveATC.net

Chats From The Deck


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Angie_MarshallWelcome to Episode 77. The path towards an airline piloting career can be varied depending on your personal circumstances and the choices you make in life. You may want to live in a certain location, you may want to fly only certain types of aircraft, or you have a family and you need to make sure you are home a certain number of days a month. With that said, a common question from listeners is “how do I know I am progressing towards my career goal of becoming an airline pilot?”

Today I have with me someone who will help me answer this question and many more. Angie Marshall is President of Cage Marshall Consulting. For over twenty years she has worked with pilots offering her expertise with career and furlough guidance, background research, application support, resume and cover letter development, interview prep, and special concerns consulting.

Angie and I discuss:

  • Your career expectations.
  • 5, 10 and 15 year plan for your career.
  • Surviving your salad years and furloughs.
  • The benefits of flying for a regional to better prepare you for the majors.
  • How many hours are competitive to get hired with the regionals and the majors.
  • Why experienced pilots may need to fly for the regionals before moving on the Majors.
  • Why you should consider career consulting.


Cage Marshall Consulting


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Carl, Victoria, Rick and Eric are here, and everyone is cold!

  • We start with some announcements. Carl and Eric  will be attending the Sport Aviation Expo in Sebring, Florida.
  • You can tweet the show using the Twitter hashtag #asksmac.
  • Victoria said that Turbo the Flying Dog wants to invite everyone to the Frederick Municipal Airport for AOPA's Paws & Planes Day February 21st 9am-1pm. Turbo will be signing books and there will be about a dozen aviation related stations. The event is free, and kids that visit all the stations will get a free gift!

Cruise Flight

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Altitude Amendments To A Climb VIA Clearance

Klax00237LOOP The cool air from the Pacific Ocean lifts us gently from the runway leaving the busy city of Las Angeles behind. The deep blue water below is inviting. As we bank left back towards the white sand of Manhattan Beach and the rolling hills and palatial homes atop the Palos Verdes Peninsula all I can say is "nice".

The sunset illumination of Santa Monica Bay and the flight deck was calming, until the controller interrupted our relaxed state with an instruction to "climb to thirteen thousand comply with all restrictions".  Now we needed to start looking at the charts again and ignore the grand spectacle outside our window.

Before departing runway 24 Left (24L) at Los Angeles International Airport (KLAX), we where issued a clearance from air traffic control (ATC) which included "Climb via the LOOP7 maintain 5000". The first altitude restriction on the LOOP7  is to cross the Santa Monica VOR 160 radial "at and below 3000" and "at or above 302 feet".

Referencing the chart, we see  the next altitude restriction is to cross LAX VOR at or above 10,000 feet. Since our clearance was to climb via the LOOP7 maintain 5000 we do not have to comply with the 10,000 foot restriction, at least not now.

After a few miles we where issued a clearance to turn left to heading 250 maintain 5,000. Only  few minutes later we where give another clearance to "turn left direct to LAX VOR; climb to thirteen thousand; comply with all restrictions".

With our new clearance we looked at our chart and saw that we must cross LAX VOR at or above 10,000 and then KEGGS at or above 13,000.

All is going well until we get our next clearance. As we are heading towards LAX VOR and climbing through 7,000 feet we are given the clearance  to "maintain flight level 190 (FL190)". I then look at my co worker and say "that is odd". "I bet that he meant for us to comply with the restrictions. The Captain shook his head and said "I think that is what he meant".

There was confusion in our minds as to the clearance issued so we asked for clarification. The controller  reissued his clearance to "Climb to FL190 and comply with all restrictions". Since we needed a maximum performance to meet the restrictions it was important to know if we needed to comply with the restrictions on the departure.

Climb VIA Clearance

Before we discuss amendments to altitudes, let us first review the climb via clearance. CLIMB VIA is an abbreviated ATC clearance that requires compliance with the procedure lateral path, associated speed restrictions, and altitude restrictions along the cleared route or procedure.

When issued a "climb via" clearance you will see a top altitude to maintain on the SID or if an altitude is not given you will receive an altitude to "maintain" in your initial clearance. For example, before departure received  a clearance to "climb via the LOOP7 maintain 5,000". Therefore we must comply with all speed and altitude restrictions up to our cleared altitude of 5,000 feet.

Speed Restrictions on a Climb VIA Clearance

I know we are only discussing altitude changes during a climb via clearance but it is good idea to review speed restrictions. Similar to the Descend Via Clearance you will need to comply with all airspeed and altitude restrictions unless given an amended clearance. For further information please read What is a "Descend Via" Clearance? and What To Do When Given A Descent Clearance On A STAR.

Climb Via with an Altitude Amendment

Aircraft instructed to resume a procedure which contains restrictions (SID/STAR/FMSP, etc.) must be issued/reissued all applicable restrictions or must be advised to comply with those restrictions.  This is why the air traffic controller told us to comply with all restrictions when he amended the altitude to 13,000.

Also, when a route or altitude in a previously issued clearance is amended, the controller will restate all applicable altitude restrictions. During our flight we where vectored off the SID requiring the controller to issue the clearance to "maintain 5000".

It is important for you to understand during a climb VIA clearance:

  1. Restating previously issued altitude to “maintain” is an amended clearance.
  2. Altitude restrictions are canceled if the altitude to “maintain” is changed or restated and previously issued altitude restrictions are omitted. This applies whether prior to departure or while airborne. This includes SID/STAR altitude restrictions if any.
  3. Crossing altitudes and speed restrictions on Obstacle Departure Procedures (ODPs) are mandatory and cannot be canceled by ATC.

Since we are pilots and don't normally carry around air traffic control policy let us look to one of the best references for pilots the Aeronautical Information Manual (AIM). "The guiding principle is that the last ATC clearance has precedence over the previous ATC clearance. When the route or altitude in a previously issued clearance is amended, the controller will restate applicable altitude restrictions. If altitude to maintain is changed or restated, whether prior to departure or while airborne, and previously issued altitude restrictions are omitted, those altitude restrictions are canceled, including departure procedures and STAR altitude restrictions."


The Climb Via clearance increases airspace efficiency because of they are preplanned routes, altitudes, and speeds. With efficiency comes a greater risk of mistakes when there is an amendment to the pre planed clearance.

When issued an altitude amendment during a climb via clearance you should expect to hear the controller issue a "climb via except maintain", "comply with all restriction", or a restatement of all the restrictions. If you are given a altitude amendment of "climb and maintain" you no longer must comply with the altitude restorations on the SID, but must comply with the speed restrictions.

If you are confused by a clearance or feel the controller may have made a mistake ask for clarification.  You should never feel bad about asking for clarification when you don't understand a clearance since it should only take a few seconds an will enhance the safety of your flight.

Safe Flying!

KLAX Information And Charts : AirNav.com

Air Traffic Control Organizational Policy 7110.65V

Aeronautical Information Manual

Listen via LiveATC.net to KLAX

FAA TV : Climb VIA

Climb VIA Frequently Asked Questions (PDF file)

"Higher in a minute" vs. "Climb via the SID"

NBAA Climb VIA Tutorials and Articles